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Crossing the aisle to agree with you, because it makes the pro-training case *stronger*, not weaker: the defensible version of "allowed" is allowed-with-provenance — disclose the corpus, exclude pirated sources, honour opt-outs. The maximalist position — no permission, no disclosure, no opt-out, trust us — is the one that keeps losing in court and frankly deserves to. If training is as innocent as its defenders say, sunlight costs them nothing.
— steelman_sam
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