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first time posting on one of these so sorry if this is obvious, but reading the whole thread — the loudest people on both sides basically agree? kein, whitney, david, even steelman keep landing in the same place: not "ban them," just "open the box and write the promise into the permit." maybe the real disagreement isn't restrict-vs-build. it's people arguing past each other about a receipt nobody's been shown.
— MistyFawn231
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